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Round 1

East Lansing, MI



Medusa (5)

Medusa is a gorgon, a chthonic female monster, and a daughter of Phorcys and Ceto. Medusa had her hair turned into serpents and anyone who gazes directly upon her will be turned to stone.

VERSUS



Gargantuar Zombie (12)

The gargantuar is a zombie from the video game Plants vs. Zombies. When Gargantuar walks, the earth trembles. When he moans, other zombies fall silent. He is the zombie other zombies dream they could be. But he still can't find a girlfriend. Type: fictional zombie. Alignment: evil.

It looks like Gargantuar is looking in two directions at once. Does that mean he only half turns to stone?

Either that or it doubles his chances of getting a glimpse of Medusa and therefore doubling his chances of being turned to stone.

Yeah Gargantuar doesn't really look anywhere, he smashes things. His little buddy might look into her eyes.

And he slingshots that little buddy. Sounds like Medusa's getting a stone imp to the face!

Actually his big eye looks like it is looking right at me, or in your case, you, or in Medusa's case, her.

No, because the way he's looking and the way he's walking are two different things. He'll be walking towards her. To smush her with that telephone pole. The other eye is closer to that direction, but still a little off.

You know, it's not like Medusa is rooted to the ground (this isn't Plants v. Zombies--it's the Tournament of Champions!). Even if Gargantuar is looking the other way, it would probably be a pretty easy deal for Medusa to quickly sidestep into his line of sight and then turn him to stone.

It once again goes to the argument of capable villain vs. incapable monster. To state that Gargantuar just has to look into the eyes is to lose doesn't necessarily mean that she would win. He still has to look into her eyes, and remember, you look into the eyes, he eyes are not that big and he's not looking directly into anything. She would have to weave her way into his line of sight but since he's pretty frantic she would still have a hard time while he's trying to plow her down.

You know, it's not like Medusa is rooted to the ground (this isn't Plants v. Zombies--it's the Tournament of Champions!). Even if Gargantuar is looking the other way, it would probably be a pretty easy deal for Medusa to quickly sidestep into his line of sight and then turn him to stone.

yeah but looking into the line of sight of someone who is thrashing about and having him actually look into those eyes is completely different. I don't think she can beat him with that tactic and if she tries she'll get wasted. She would have to go with some other form in this one.

Also let's look at how many times Medusa has been beaten by so many people who simply decide to avert their gaze. Tell your friend to make sure to not look into your eyes and then try physically try and make them look into your eyes. It's incredibly hard. There has to be some sort of focus for it to work and I don't think a thrashing zombie is going to look into some enemies eyes because "Hey, Look, eyes."

I don't think it is just about not focusing, the dude that was able to defeat Medusa literally had to keep his whole face from turning into her direction or have his eyes completely closed. And what good is an essentially blind zombie? In my experience zombies are actually pretty easy to kill, they are only formidable in large numbers. Medusa is still pretty tough even without her turning to stone powers.

It also looks like, based on his description, that Gargantuar is looking a for a girlfriend, he is going to check Medusa out.

Dyger's right--there was never anything in the mythology about having to look directly into Medusa's eyes. It usually mentions merely gazing directly on her--most of the time that seems to be interpreted as any looking at her face.

Aside from that, by looking at Gargantuar, I can't believe that he would somehow figure out that he shouldn't look at Medusa. Odds are the damage will be done before he ever realizes somethings wrong. And the girlfriend point is a very compelling argument.

I think it's worth pointing out that the thing he's holding in his hand in that picture is a telephone pole. And he seems to be considerably taller than it. If he's really that tall, then I doubt he'll have trouble avoiding looking at Medusa. You know, since he'll be looking over her head the whole time.

Admittedly, zombies aren't too tricky to deal with, but I think 35 foot tall zombies are a little trickier.

Size doesn't matter. Remember, a giant Sea Monster (much bigger than a telephone pole) was able to see Medusa's face without any problem and it got stonified.

That's a fair point. I think I wasn't being clear with what I was saying. The zombie doesn't do a lot of looking around. It just stares stupidly forward. Now, if Medusa was the same height as the zombie, she'd just have to walk in front of him to turn him to stone. However, his line of sight is now 35 feet in the air. Unless she finds a ladder or can jump a lot higher than we thought, she's going to have a hard time getting in that line of sight, since he's not really moving his head around much. Right?

Well, if he doesn't move his head, than he can't really aim. He's going to have to look at her if he wants to hit her with the telephone pole. Otherwise, swinging the telephone probably won't do him much good.

Also, I'm looking at the size of the telephone pole, compared to Gargantuar's size, compared to the size of the imp that's on his back, and it appears it's much more likely that they have really small telephone poles in his world than that he's 35 feet tall.

And the telephone pole is broke off at the bottom, we really don't know how long that telephone pole is.

He is as tall as a house. And when he attacks he smashes with disregard of what he's looking at.

Oh good. Then his attacks should be pretty easy to dodge. And with how Clash of the Titans (either one) depicts Medusa, it looks like she ought to be able to get right up in his face, what with that long snake tail of hers.

caboelx wrote:Oh good. Then his attacks should be pretty easy to dodge. And with how Clash of the Titans (either one) depicts Medusa, it looks like she ought to be able to get right up in his face, what with that long snake tail of hers.

Wait how does this sentence make sense. If she can get up to his face mind you his eyes are looking in different directions, how does that make a telephone poll easy to dodge? Maybe if she were small but then she couldn't get into his face. Please clarify your thinking on this. I don't think she can be small and get into his face at the same time.

Agreed. She's no plant, she can probably dodge. But to attack him, she's got to get on eye level, to clamber right up him. I think he could attack her if she were that close.

She's part snake--they move fast. Just dodge one of his pole swings that he swung without aiming, and then slither up and strike. She wouldn't necessarily stay at the same height the entire time. People duck, you know.